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Comments about the soundtrack for Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (John Williams)

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Re: Probably the best work by Williams..
• Posted by: Morn
• Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2001, at 12:29 a.m.
• IP Address: cfw1.rdc1.nsw.excitehome.net.au
• In Response to: Probably the best work by Williams.... (Peter Marks)

> I'm going to attempt a reasonable review of this amazing release unlike a
> lot of scaremongerers out there. I'm only glad that the people here at
> Filmtracks took a reasonable approach as well.

> Firstly, before I address the music itself, I would like to point out to
> those critics who are wetting themselves over the snippets of unreleased
> music, that this is the soundtrack from The Phantom Menace, NOT The
> Phantom Menace computer game, and NOT the Phantom Menace that 'could have
> been'. Therefore, we have got all the music we could have expected from
> such a release.

But there is very good stuff unreleased and the looping really sucks. Besides the Special Editions had unreleased, why shouldn't we expect this release to?

> Secondly, regarding the editing of this music (most of it being
> beneficial). If some people think this is not like the other Star Wars
> scores, then they obviously cannot have listened to them very carefully.
> This new release smacks of a Star Wars score, and you cannot deny that you
> still get that Star Wars score buzz from listening to it all through. I
> was listening to some of the music from A New Hope recently and lo and
> behold I heard looping/editing in the music.

Where?

> Yet we love this score. All I
> want to say is that the editing of this Ultimate Edition (with the odd
> exception) makes following the story of the film with the listening of the
> score much easier. Look what happened with the full release of the Empire
> Strikes Back score...the extra music released was great, but it confused
> the storyline while listening to it because it was music for sequences
> that were not actually used in the film. If all the Phantom Menace music
> was to be released (all 5-10 odd minutes of it) then we would completely
> lose our way with the original storyline.

I don't listen to music to relive the film but for the music, those unused parts in empire don't bother me at all.

> Anyway, enough of that. Onto the music - the most important part (in case
> all the nit-pickers out there had forgotten).

> The Ultimate Edition contains some absolutely amazing cues, including
> unsung heroes like the music used while the characters were on Coruscant.
> During the Senate track, we are treated to a similar style of music to
> what Williams used on the planet Krypton in Superman.

Similar style I find doesn't tell you much, as it doesn't mean it will be as enjoyable.

> The opening music (after the main theme, that is) is perfect. This film
> represents the first time we enter the Star Wars galaxy, and the opening
> motifs reflect this without any themes at all, merely a gorgeously
> mysterious chiming as the Jedi disembark (after all, how does the newcomer
> know whether these mysterious figures are good or bad).

And is the worst opening in all the SW films. Even the performence of the main theme is lacking. What happened to the LSO? They've become more procise and machine like I think.

> The use of
> Palpatine's theme when Darth Sidious first appears is extremely clever
> also. The whole Star Wars saga is based on Jedi vs Sith, and having this
> made musically clear at the start is a great bonus.

Great bonus? Not really, it's inferia to the Return of the Jedi versions, works well for the film though.

> As the jedi are gased, we are treated to spine-chilling 'danger' music
> before we are catapulted into the Star Wars we all know and love with a
> fantastic rendition of the main theme + force theme. This gives us a
> positive clue as to who is good and who is bad.

> The music from here on is remarkable. Note track 14 (Fighting the Guards)
> for pure musical genius. This and other cues are the sort of musical joy
> that we have come to expect from Williams. We only get small amounts on
> some of his soundtracks, but to get a whole score that is so inspired is
> just amazing.

> The music of Tatooine is extremely well put together. Some of the cues
> with Anakin are heart-rendering (especially his farewell - another fab cue
> which reminds of Stepmom in a way). The only negative is the re-use of the
> escape from Naboo track during the podrace, but that is made up for by the
> use of the Imperial theme at the end of Anakin's winning the podrace
> track; this ends the 1st CD brilliantly.

> I won't go into Anakin's farewell as many have, but it begins the 2nd CD
> brilliantly, especially starting with Qui-Gon's theme at the start. The
> fight scene immediately after this reminds me of the 1st action cue from
> the 2nd CD of A New Hope where the Falcon takes off from Mos Eisley. I
> have already mentioned the Coruscant music, which is again amazing.

> The war plans where Anakin runs across the plains of Naboo are scored
> beautifully (you really have to buy this to believe it!). The final battle
> scene, although seemingly heavily cut at first, DOES get better with more
> listenings. The music itself is unquestionable. Basically, the
> scene-shifting nature of the scene requires this sort of scoring, so we
> can expect nothing else. The Tide Turns track is again a stroke of genius
> (if a little short-lived).

> The complete end + credits complete this beautiful score which I can say
> with complete confidence will be the most listened to of all my Star Wars
> scores. I will not forget the others of course - especially Empire! The
> bonus Duel of the Fates track at the very end is a perfect reminder to get
> you in the mood to watch the film - and it has increased volume of some
> normally quiet instrumental bits as well.

> For those who are unsatisfied - don't expect the unreleased music anytime
> soon. It will either only come if George Lucas decides to make a Phantom
> Menace Special Edition film, or in many, many years time when the nature
> of the unreleased music will not cause the extremists to harp on about
> what the film should have had in it. Think about it - and as Filmtracks
> say..Take it or leave it.

Hmmm, I heard it could be released when Episode 2 is though I doubt it.

> Ultimate Edition - definately 5 stars - the most deserving so far.

5 stars? Nah but it's far better then the 99 release and worth buying. Best score of 99, I wouldn't say masterpiece but a great score.




Comments in this Thread:     Expand >>
  • Probably the best work by Williams....  (6028 views)
       Peter Marks - Thursday, November 23, 2000, at 12:34 p.m.
    •      Re: Probably the best work by Williams..  (5262 views)    We're Here
         Morn - Wednesday, January 3, 2001, at 12:29 a.m.
    •    Imperial March  (14934 views)
         Mark - Monday, December 4, 2000, at 1:43 p.m.
      •    Re: Imperial March  (7524 views)
           Christian Afonso - Thursday, February 15, 2001, at 8:17 a.m.



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