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Comments about the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean (Klaus Badelt and co.)
Very enjoyable score

the_negotiator
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Richard Crannix
Very enjoyable score   Wednesday, July 23, 2003 (4:06 p.m.) 

This score offers nothing new - if you don't accept and understand that, you're not going to like this score. It was meant as nothing more than to entertain, and that is exactly what it does. And for a score that has "one music supervisor, eight composers, nine orchestrators, three conductors, and Zimmer serving as the Overproducer," I am very impressed that PIRATES is such a cohesive album.

I keep hearing about the similarities to THE ROCK and DROP ZONE. That's only barely true. There are a couple of notes similar to DROP ZONE, but in all, the score bears much more of a similarity to PEARL HARBOR, GLADIATOR, and THE TIME MACHINE, 3 scores worked on extensively by Klaus Badelt. To be surprised that the CD sounds the way it does is to show ignorance of Badelt's previous efforts. You CANNOT take this score seriously and like it - it's not meant to be serious. It's a terrific return to Zimmer's pre-GLADIATOR style of scoring.

One area where this review goes wrong is the point about Alan Silvestri. Yes, I'm sure he would've composed a GREAT score for the movie (and I'd pay lots to hear it), but to detract from the quality of the score we have because of that is wrong. Reviews aren't "shoulda woulda coulda" - in fact we're in a time where no announced composer is a sure bet. The score should be judged by how well it works in the movie and on CD, and how enjoyable it is. In that respect, PIRATES is at a minimal of 4 stars (5 should be reserved for classics).

Anyone who enjoyed GLADIATOR, PEARL HARBOR, or any of Zimmer's 1990 action scores will no doubt enjoy PIRATES for what it is - pure entertainment, nothing more, nothing less.

*Additionally, I can't figure out how Pirates got 1 star and XXX got 2 stars. Pirates is a much more pleasing listen than Randy Edelman's poor attempt at a MV score. In terms of sound quality, the synthesizers in PIRATES are on par with THE PEACEMAKER and ANTZ, whereas XXX sounds completely fake.

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Richard Crannix
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the_negotiator
Skyde
Re: Very enjoyable score. .- you are "bondo321"!   Wednesday, July 23, 2003 (4:10 p.m.) 

Your IP says that YOU are Bondo321, the person who claimed on the Black Hawk Down page that Zimmer's music makes your "penis strong and hard"... so why should we trust your judgemement about a MediaVentures score?? You are sick!


> This score offers nothing new - if you don't accept and understand that,
> you're not going to like this score. It was meant as nothing more than to
> entertain, and that is exactly what it does. And for a score that has
> "one music supervisor, eight composers, nine orchestrators, three
> conductors, and Zimmer serving as the Overproducer," I am very
> impressed that PIRATES is such a cohesive album.

> I keep hearing about the similarities to THE ROCK and DROP ZONE. That's
> only barely true. There are a couple of notes similar to DROP ZONE, but in
> all, the score bears much more of a similarity to PEARL HARBOR, GLADIATOR,
> and THE TIME MACHINE, 3 scores worked on extensively by Klaus Badelt. To
> be surprised that the CD sounds the way it does is to show ignorance of
> Badelt's previous efforts. You CANNOT take this score seriously and like
> it - it's not meant to be serious. It's a terrific return to Zimmer's
> pre-GLADIATOR style of scoring.

> One area where this review goes wrong is the point about Alan Silvestri.
> Yes, I'm sure he would've composed a GREAT score for the movie (and I'd
> pay lots to hear it), but to detract from the quality of the score we have
> because of that is wrong. Reviews aren't "shoulda woulda coulda"
> - in fact we're in a time where no announced composer is a sure bet. The
> score should be judged by how well it works in the movie and on CD, and
> how enjoyable it is. In that respect, PIRATES is at a minimal of 4 stars
> (5 should be reserved for classics).

> Anyone who enjoyed GLADIATOR, PEARL HARBOR, or any of Zimmer's 1990 action
> scores will no doubt enjoy PIRATES for what it is - pure entertainment,
> nothing more, nothing less.

> *Additionally, I can't figure out how Pirates got 1 star and XXX got 2
> stars. Pirates is a much more pleasing listen than Randy Edelman's poor
> attempt at a MV score. In terms of sound quality, the synthesizers in
> PIRATES are on par with THE PEACEMAKER and ANTZ, whereas XXX sounds
> completely fake.


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the_negotiator1
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Gabriel the Seraph
Re: Very enjoyable score. .- you are "bondo321"!   Wednesday, July 23, 2003 (4:14 p.m.) 

That's nice that you completely ignored my review and went straight to the name calling, but I'm sorry to disappoint you - I am not the same sicko who said that. You can believe me or not believe me - it makes little difference. I'm here to discuss this score, so please - let's discuss it.

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Gabriel the Seraph
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Bondo alias the_negotiator, you pathetic moron...   Tuesday, September 23, 2003 (9:51 a.m.) 

Perhaps morons like you, bondo/negotiator, actually believe that your IP, assigned by the BS-A router to you, could have been spoofed. Perhaps, because you're an imbecile who didn't even know how to hide your IP behind a (won't tell you what, dimwad, not to make it easy for you) when posting the "hard penis stuff", you even believe yourself that it's possible. It's not, of course, and your ignorance and stupidity are only equalled by how pathetic you are. But then, you like Badelt. You, you pitiful moronic subhuman scum, are an excellent proof of who the Media Venture "fans" are. You probably only found our pristine film score (score, not electronic MV junk) pool, to pollute it with your unwashed bodies, because of some gangsta hip-hop which you heard in some trash movies you loved.

Do the world a favor, bondo - slit your wrists. And get out of Filetopia, too.


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the_negotiator
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Richard Crannix
Re: Very enjoyable score. .- you are "bondo321"!   Wednesday, July 23, 2003 (4:20 p.m.) 

> Your IP says that YOU are Bondo321, the person who claimed on the Black
> Hawk Down page that Zimmer's music makes your "penis strong and
> hard"... so why should we trust your judgemement about a
> MediaVentures score?? You are sick!
>

Unfortunately you are right about the IPs - I just checked. All I can say is that he's a hacker, but I'm sure you'd just rather not believe me. If I DID say something as disgusting as that (which I did not), I would not lie about it now. It's a moot point either way.

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Skyde
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Richard Crannix
Re: Very enjoyable score. .- you are "bondo321"!   Wednesday, July 23, 2003 (7:39 p.m.) 

> Your IP says that YOU are Bondo321, the person who claimed on the Black
> Hawk Down page that Zimmer's music makes your "penis strong and
> hard"... so why should we trust your judgemement about a
> MediaVentures score?? You are sick!

Because he makes a valid argument.

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