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Give Clemmensen a break

Mark
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Kevin L.
Give Clemmensen a break   Thursday, May 27, 2004 (8:10 a.m.) 

There's a reason we have the comment section of the reviews. "Do you have an opinion about the score? Was the review wrong?" I'm a big fan of Williams and of Harry Potter, and I think this is one of his best scores; certainly the best in the Harry Potter series. I agree that Clemmensen's review was terrible, but if he wants to make a fool of himself by claiming "'Window to the Past' is the primary musical idea in Prisoner of Azkaban," that's fine. He doesn't need our help. So the guy makes some bad reviews, big deal. It's not gonna change the quality of the music he reviews.

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No, he does NOT deserve a break. He must have inadequacy issues.   Thursday, May 27, 2004 (9:03 a.m.) 

> There's a reason we have the comment section of the reviews. "Do you
> have an opinion about the score? Was the review wrong?" I'm a big fan
> of Williams and of Harry Potter, and I think this is one of his best
> scores; certainly the best in the Harry Potter series. I agree that
> Clemmensen's review was terrible, but if he wants to make a fool of
> himself by claiming "'Window to the Past' is the primary musical idea
> in Prisoner of Azkaban," that's fine. He doesn't need our help. So
> the guy makes some bad reviews, big deal. It's not gonna change the
> quality of the music he reviews.

The reviewer tries to disgrace John Williams' music when we all know that Williams will eventually die and we won't be able to hear any more new music from him.

Clemmenson is like other people who try to degrade something that's really good and popular. He does it BECAUSE HE HAS A TINY PENIS and is trying to compensate for his SMALL COCK by shouting offensive opinions loudly to annoy others.



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CS^TBL
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Pogel Adler
Re: No, he does NOT deserve a break. He must have inadequacy issues. *sigh*   Thursday, May 27, 2004 (1:44 p.m.) 

> The reviewer tries to disgrace John Williams' music when we all know that
> Williams will eventually die and we won't be able to hear any more new
> music from him.

> Clemmenson is like other people who try to degrade something that's really
> good and popular. He does it BECAUSE HE HAS A TINY PENIS and is trying to
> compensate for his SMALL COCK by shouting offensive opinions loudly to
> annoy others.

children children children.. calm down please!

Consider the following:
* if you go to a restaurant, and the food doesn't taste you well you go away and never come back, rather than forever argueing with the manager or other guests!
* if you think an album deserves more or less stars, then you obviously already have/heard the soundtrack, so you don't need the review for yourself.
* your taste is not my taste is not Clem's taste is not anyone's taste.. taste is personal, so is a review..
* Perhaps Clem's listening to slightly different elements of the music than other ppl, since he prolly heard more than any of us. So, what he considers 'good' or 'bad' might differ from the average John Smith, for reasons unknown to John Smith. And on the other hand Clem prolly doesn't understand why many people like -for example- the Alien 3 score.. not much you can do about all that..

But no matter what issue, talking about cocks is the wrong road. Just stay with facts regarding the soundtrack using the soundtrack idiom, and simply avoid childish language. I might look like the average parent now talking blahblahyoushouldnotdothisblahblahandthatneitherblahblah, but I'm not. Just try to discusss with some 'class', and the digital world is a way better place to be.

To make things slightly more difficult: I can't be bothered to listen to any LOTR soundtrack. Not because I don't like grand-scale scores -Ben Hur (Rozsa) running while I write this- but simply because I don't really like LOTR. I listened to -for example- 'Always' and 'Alien 3' way more .. both got either 1 or 2 stars here, dunno exactly. And yes, usually I put Williams into the cd-player, the typical composers are in my collection (Williams/Goldsmith/Horner/Zimmer/J.N.Howard/Silvestri etc.) so I guess that makes me 'normal'

So, is this blasphemy? No, it's an opinion. Now imagine me making a score-review site somewhere where I give Alien 3 5 stars out of five .. do you really believe that Clem starts argueing ME for giving A3 5 stars ?

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Re: No, he does NOT deserve a break. He must have inadequacy issues. *sigh*   Thursday, May 27, 2004 (2:19 p.m.) 

Thank you CS^TBL. I would have said the same thing, but I don't think someone who makes penis comments would be mature enough to understand anyway. You made some very good points.

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Re: No, he does NOT deserve a break. He must have inadequacy issues. *sigh*   Friday, May 28, 2004 (11:14 p.m.) 

> Thank you CS^TBL. I would have said the same thing, but I don't think
> someone who makes penis comments would be mature enough to understand
> anyway. You made some very good points.

I agree here. A review is an intelligently based opinion and we have the right to agree or disagree. Intelligently.

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I'd like to add:   Sunday, May 30, 2004 (4:15 p.m.) 

One thing that puzzles me is the type of ppl that listen to soundtracks..

There are musical styles that invite a certain style o' ppl to listen. If I see what kinda ppl are performing and listening to death-metal, then I say .. "yeahwell, there's a perfect match there".. Same goes for other styles o' music. Usually the listener fits the music, just as a dog fits his/her boss.
(not a bad word about any style btw, I just used it as an example that prolly makes sense to a lot of ppl)

So, what type is the average soundtracklistener? I always thought that a typical stereotype soundtrack could be defined as: 'modern orchestral music, produced as popmusic, meant to support moving images'.. e.g. I'd expect ppl who appreciate classic music as well. Based on this, I expected ST people who have a certain 'class' in everything.

But maybe I'm wrong in this, anyway... what's a typical ST listener anno 2004? When I read some comments here and there I'm under the impression that there are quite some ppl running around that don't exactly match my imagination about the typical ST listener.

it's now 01:10 .. sleeping time ..forgive me this philosophic oddball in the middle of the night .. just curious

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Re: I'd like to add:   Tuesday, June 1, 2004 (9:17 a.m.) 

Well, I don't know if I can speak for everyone else, but I just like movies a lot. There's so much more you can do with an entire orchestra than a few guitars and a drum set. Also, the fact that soundtracks are written to fit the action of the film, it gives you something to think about as you listen to it. Other than that, I'm in college, I like WWII, I drive a Dodge Neon, and I go to church. I guess I'm just a normal person.

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A wise man you are... *NM*   Sunday, May 30, 2004 (12:31 p.m.) 



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Re: Give Clemmensen a break   Friday, May 28, 2004 (12:41 p.m.) 

I agree that
> Clemmensen's review was terrible, but if he wants to make a fool of
> himself by claiming "'Window to the Past' is the primary musical idea
> in Prisoner of Azkaban," that's fine.

Actually, I agree with Clemmensen on this one. If there is a single theme which can be said to unite the album, it's "A Window to the Past". After all, it's the only "new" theme which appears in more than one track (not counting "Mischief Managed", which is just an edit of a whole bunch of previous cues). And it's a pivotal appearance taking place at the climax of the score.

That said, my main problem with the HP3 score (well -- actually it's more of a frustration, since what's on the CD is already so good it easily warrants ***** in my book) is that it doesn't develop its *new* themes enough. You hear a whole bunch of cool themes like Buckbeak's Flight once, the Quidditch fugue once, Hagrid's theme once, Window to the Past maybe a couple times, etc. It doesn't really bother me that the old themes don't come back -- didn't we have enough of them on the first two soundtracks? -- but it's a shame that the new ones don't get more air time.

Kevin

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