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Comments about the soundtrack for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (James Horner)

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Re: "Pizzaboy" = "The One"... doesn't this moron follow his own advice?
• Posted by: andyf
• Date: Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 1:19 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: "Pizzaboy" = "The One"... doesn't this mor... (Pizzaboy)

> Well, I am actually over 18, actually a few years.

> 1.: Insulting people seems to be your only strength. If you have ANY
> firends you must live in a very odd country.

> 2.: There is nothing to "understand" about this score. I think
> it's quite woderfull, but a Goldsmith score would have been better.

> Heck, ever heared about OPINIONS?
But no I forgot, you don't deal with
> people that often, otherwise you would be much nicer, or you are just born
> that stupid.

> 3.: Blaming me for my "poor english" is actually the highpoint
> of your pathetic attempts to get rid of me. My Origin is NOT in the US or
> in any other english or indogerman-speaking country. But I bet you even
> don't know what that is.

> And my view on filmmusic might be not like yours, although I actually
> never knew yours.

> People like you make the world a worse place


You guys are getting into name calling match over a piece of music that I would guess maybe 1% of the world population would even recognize. That's still a lot of people, but let's try to keep the absurdity to a minimum. Everyone is welcome to their opinion around here, BUT if one wishes to post they should at least be able to conduct an informed, civil debate instead of degenerating into "you don't know what you are talking about!, "you write like a child!", "you make the world a worse place." Internet messageboard flamewars are the passive-aggressive person's playground where it's easy to sit behind a keyboard and lambast someone for the most ridiculous reasons.

Now, I disagree with Pizzaboy's opinion on the Wrath score. Goldsmith's for the first film is an absolutely outstanding piece of music and the main theme has been forever attached to Trek. It is the modern Star Trek theme, hands down. However, it would not have fit well in TWOK. Why? As was mentioned earlier, think about the overall sweep of the film. It focused on themes like life, death, isolation, age, revenge. Goldsmith's theme (and the tone of the first film) reflects more on exploration, the unknown, etc. Horner's theme, along with most of the score, worked to enforce the themes and deep emotional scope of the film. It's impossible to say of Goldsmith good have done as good a job as Horner did, he's certainly as good a composer and has an imposing filmography. However, when you listen to Horner's work, knowing how it was intended in the film, I think it fits perfectly.

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