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Bootleg not complete... There are two versions

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Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Tuesday, November 13, 2001 (2:03 p.m.) 

First, the bootleg reviwed above is actually not complete, it's missing 3 small cues, most notably the one named "Showdown" and more importantly, the film version of "The Healing Process" (the music underscoring the final fight between Picard and Ru'afo) is also missing.

Secondly, the track titles of the tracks exclusice to the bootleg are differnt to those of the otherwise identical copy i have.
Several people i know have the Insurrection bootleg, and all have the same titles as my copy, even though they got it from other places.

Just so you'll know

Stefancos

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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Friday, April 12, 2002 (11:35 a.m.) 

> First, the bootleg reviwed above is actually not complete, it's missing 3
> small cues, most notably the one named "Showdown" and more
> importantly, the film version of "The Healing Process" (the
> music underscoring the final fight between Picard and Ru'afo) is also
> missing.

> Secondly, the track titles of the tracks exclusice to the bootleg are
> differnt to those of the otherwise identical copy i have.
Several
> people i know have the Insurrection bootleg, and all have the same titles
> as my copy, even though they got it from other places.

> Just so you'll know

> Stefancos
well, the big question is, where can i buy one? plese help!


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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Friday, April 12, 2002 (12:46 p.m.) 

Several
well, the big question is, where can i buy one? plese help!

Well, i got mine in a trade.
I'm sure you won't find it in any CD store, and i'm not to familiar with online shops.

Sorry.

Stefancos


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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Monday, June 16, 2003 (2:35 p.m.) 

Be aware, I'm currently in the process of downloading them, and some of the tracks with different titles (such as Data's New Friend and Data and Artim) are the same music.

So we have three different soundtracks, but a lot of the music is the same with different titles, not really different tracks. A lot of "The Launch Sequence" files out there are really just "The Healing Process". Seeing as how I can't find any to buy, I have to make the REAL COMPLETE soundtrack, not the Almost Complete soundtrack. :p

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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Monday, June 16, 2003 (9:02 p.m.) 

> Be aware, I'm currently in the process of downloading them, and some of
> the tracks with different titles (such as Data's New Friend and Data and
> Artim) are the same music.

> So we have three different soundtracks, but a lot of the music is the same
> with different titles, not really different tracks. A lot of "The
> Launch Sequence" files out there are really just "The Healing
> Process". Seeing as how I can't find any to buy, I have to make the
> REAL COMPLETE soundtrack, not the Almost Complete soundtrack. :p

Alright, I did a little work and figured out the confusion with the titles. I may have missed a few, and there are very few I can't find to download to check, but here is a chunk:

"The Hidden Ship" is the same as "Holoship" and "A Few Loose Ends"
"Contemplation" is also "Regeneration" and "How Old Are You?"
"Unlikely Captors" is also "Meeting the Ba'ku"
"Ba'ku Village/Phaser Blast" is also "Main Title/Ba'ku (sometimes Ba'hu) Village", both at 6:51, and also POSSIBLY "Main Title/Into the Briar Patch"
"Lock and Load" is also "Picard's Plan" I believe.
"Prime Directive" is also "Admiral Dougherty" I believe.
"A Perfect Moment" is also "Living in a moment".
"Into the Caves" is also "Don't Let Go"
"Exodus" is also "Climbing"
"Data's new Friend" is also "Data and Artim"
"The Collector" is also "Deploy(ing) the Collector"
"Chasing Data" is probably the same track as "In Custody" or perhaps "Captain and Friend", I have yet to find "Chasing Data" to make sure.

Here's the "Complete" list that I've found so far, in relative chronological order:

"Main Title/Ba'ku Village (Alternate)
Captain and Friend
In Custody
Unlikely Captors
Children's Story
The Holoship
Regeneration
Picard and Anij
New Sight
Side Effects
Admiral Dougherty
Picard's Plan
Not Functioning
Exodus
Data's New Friend
A Perfect Moment
The Convoy
Childhood Discussions
The Drones Attack
Battle Stations
The Riker Maneuver
Into the Caves
The Same Race (I believe there are two versions of this, one is longer)
The Collector
Picard's Duty
No Threat
Countdown
Weapon Systems Offline
The Healing Process
End Credits

There are a few tracks I just can't find, they may be just another name for a listed track, or they may be new. Any help or corrections in my list would be welcome.

The tracks I have yet to check include: "The Launching Process", "Insurrection", "Warp Capability", "Dogfight", "Through the Briar Patch", "Ba'ku Planet", "Ru'afo's Threat", "Cave-In", and a so-called film version of "The Healing Process". All the ones I've heard are the exact same, so any help would be great.

I hope I made it a little easier for someone trying to figure out all the different soundtracks and why there are different titles.



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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Thursday, July 1, 2004 (3:22 p.m.) 

Does anyone of any websites where you can download bootleg copies harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban for free?

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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Tuesday, July 9, 2002 (5:18 p.m.) 

> First, the bootleg reviwed above is actually not complete, it's missing 3
> small cues, most notably the one named "Showdown" and more
> importantly, the film version of "The Healing Process" (the
> music underscoring the final fight between Picard and Ru'afo) is also
> missing.

> Secondly, the track titles of the tracks exclusice to the bootleg are
> differnt to those of the otherwise identical copy i have.
Several
> people i know have the Insurrection bootleg, and all have the same titles
> as my copy, even though they got it from other places.

> Just so you'll know

> Stefancos

What are the track names on your version? (specifically tracks 11, 13, 15, 20, and 22)

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Re: Bootleg not complete... There are two versions   Friday, July 12, 2002 (12:49 p.m.) 

> What are the track names on your version? (specifically tracks 11, 13, 15,
> 20, and 22)

Here's the complete tracklist from my boot.

1-Main Title**/
The Ba'ku Village (alternate) 6:51
2-Through The Briar Patch+ 1:43
3-Captain And Friend 2:33
4-In Custody (extended) 1:13
5-Unlikely Captors
6-Contemplation 0:34
7-Children's Story* 1:50
8-A Few Loose Ends 4:36
9-Side Effects 0:26
10-New Sight* 5:47
11-Ru'afo's Threat 0:46
12-Prime Directive 1:54
13-Insurrection 1:35
14-Not Functioning* 1:52
15-The Convoy 0:59
6-Childhood Discussion 1:08
17-A Perfect Moment 1:07
18-Battle Stations 0:26
19-The Drones Attack*+ 4:13
20-The Riker Maneuver* 3:14
21-Don't Let Go 1:40
22-The Same Race/Ru'afo Strikes* 2:54
23-Deploying The Collector 1:08
24- No Threat* 4:11
25-Weapon Systems Offline (unused) 0:38)
26-The Launch Sequence* (unused) 4:21
27-The Healing Process* 2:31
28-End Credits* 5:50

Bonustracks (contains soundeffects)
29-Showdown 0:50
30-The Launch Sequence (film version) 5:00

Previously released
**Contains "Theme From Star Trek" by Alexander Courage
+ Contains "Klingon Theme" from Star Trek The Motion Picture
Composed by Jerry Goldsmith

Orchestrations by Alexander Courage



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Nope, there appear to be three versions!   Friday, September 13, 2002 (4:13 p.m.) 

Here is a tracklist of the version I have

1. Ba'Ku Village-Into the Briar Patch - 8:41
2. Chasing Data - 2:34
3. In Custody - 1:08
4. Meeting the Ba'Ku - 0:39
5. Picard and Anij' - 0:34
6. Children's Story - 1:50
7. The Holoship - 4:35
8. How old are you? - 0:28
9. New Sight - 5:45
10. Confrontation Dougherty - 1:58
11. Picard's Plan - 1:38
12. Not Functioning - 1:52
13. Climbing - 1:03
14. Data and Artim - 1:10
15. Living-In a moment - 1:06
16. The Drones Attack - 4:13
17. The Riker Maneuver - 3:13
18. Cave-In - 0:33
19. The Same Race - 2:53
20. The Collector Opens - 1:09
21. No Threat - 4:14
22. Unknown - 0:37
23. The Healing Process(Film Version)/End Credits - 12:38

I don't know how many versions there are, only mine says that it is the official complete album without bonus tracks.

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Re: Nope, there appear to be three versions!   Thursday, January 2, 2003 (1:53 p.m.) 

> I don't know how many versions there are, only mine says that it is the
> official complete album without bonus tracks.

Obviously, the original soundtrac released by GPN is the only one that's official.

All the other versions are bootlegs.


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Re: Nope, there appear to be three versions!   Friday, January 3, 2003 (9:21 a.m.) 

> Obviously, the original soundtrac released by GPN is the only one that's
> official.

> All the other versions are bootlegs.

You are wrong, the expanded release here is official

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Um...Let's see... well that would be a 'You're Wrong' *NM*   Sunday, January 26, 2003 (3:21 p.m.) 



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Re: Nope, there appear to be three versions!   Monday, June 2, 2003 (11:49 p.m.) 

> Here is a tracklist of the version I have

> 1. Ba'Ku Village-Into the Briar Patch - 8:41
2. Chasing Data - 2:34
>
3. In Custody - 1:08
4. Meeting the Ba'Ku - 0:39
5. Picard and
> Anij' - 0:34
6. Children's Story - 1:50
7. The Holoship - 4:35
>
8. How old are you? - 0:28
9. New Sight - 5:45
10.
> Confrontation Dougherty - 1:58
11. Picard's Plan - 1:38
12. Not
> Functioning - 1:52
13. Climbing - 1:03
14. Data and Artim - 1:10
>
15. Living-In a moment - 1:06
16. The Drones Attack - 4:13
17.
> The Riker Maneuver - 3:13
18. Cave-In - 0:33
19. The Same Race -
> 2:53
20. The Collector Opens - 1:09
21. No Threat - 4:14
22.
> Unknown - 0:37
23. The Healing Process(Film Version)/End Credits -
> 12:38

> I don't know how many versions there are, only mine says that it is the
> official complete album without bonus tracks.

Hey I was wondering track 23- The Healing Process(Film Version) / End Credits does the Healing Process part have sfx ...basically was it ripped directly off the DVD?


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Where can i get bootleg copies of current movies playing?   Saturday, May 31, 2003 (9:28 a.m.) 

>Been looking for boots of current movies. please helpme with a connection if u can. email me at.stspar@aol.com

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Re: Where can i get bootleg copies of current movies playing?   Friday, August 15, 2003 (6:08 p.m.) 

If you know anyone who sells bootleg DVD movies please email me thanks.

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