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Re: Well yes, but
• Posted by: FREAK
• Date: Thursday, July 8, 2004, at 2:17 p.m.
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• In Response to: Well yes, but (Ken Applegate)

> Hey Pal,

Hey hey

> First off, I wasn't the one that who said that Zimmer is a jerk.

Nice news pal, nice news ...

> What I was intending to say was that I think that a previous poster was
> misinterpreted as having said that John Williams is the jerk, and that
> given what I'd heard about the two composers, that was a much less likely
> scenario than John Williams being a Jerk (funny how words just come into
> focus later on down the line).

Yup, and funny how people keep trying to proove that any of these composers are jerks ... It should only be about their Music.

> I never meant to state that "Zimmer is a Jerk" as fact, and if I did, it was
> in error. I was only relaying what I have heard about him.

Ok, I C, anyway, it's really not that important, let's move on ..

> And, as far as the whole knowing your motor thing,

Oh yeah, the motor thing is my favourite ...

> the difference between a championship driver and one that barely qualifies
> for the same race can easily be determined by how much the driver knows about
> the inner workings of his car.

True but ...
Ok, so we talk about a car race ok. there are the cars from the factories and there are the classically trained drivers. They know how their motors work and stuff so they are probably better drivers than those who drive the same car without any knowledge, and then there is that poor Zimmer guy who wants to join the championship. Well yup, he doesnt know that much about these cars from the factories, but he created a car of his own, and he knows brilliantly how that one works. And in this case he doesnt need to learn things about the factory cars, coz he can easily join the race with his own one. What I am trying to say is that Zimmer is now too old to start to learn the basic things officially, and he doesnt even need to (coz he does know everything he needs, just not in the official form). He has reached a very high level on his own, which is a bigger respect from him than a paper that prooves he can read ... Well it sounded a little bit childish (would have been better in my mother language) in this way but I hope you get the point.

Does this mean that Hans will be a better composer if he learns how to
> read music? Not necessarily. But, I think that it would show so much more
> respect to his field (which, I believe, is a field that deserves respect)

You are damn right about how much respect this field deserves, but
1.) (and this is the funniest one coz it will make our whole car chase conversation totally needless): Hans Zimmer Can Read Music, that's for sure. A person working with orchestras all the time learns things without even realizing it.
2.) I think the respect is not in your 'ability to read music' but in the quality of your works.

> to learn how to read. He's obviously got enough money to take some time
> off and learn, but whatever.

Yeah, he has money, no arguement ... but I dont think he is doing it for the money, so he wont stop composing just because he has enough money.

And no, I am not saying that you have to
> learn to read music as well. The difference in that situation is that Hans
> Zimmer is... one of the most frequently hired composers in the game,

Ohh thank you, now you have really broken my heart ...

> should probably think about what kind of example he is setting for the
> people who want to play. Like a baseball player who is more concerned with
> his Pepsi endorsement falling through than the fact that he is batting
> clean up and hitting .221 with 3 home runs at the all-star break.

Ahm well, could be my mistake, but I have never seen Zimmer dancing in the colosseum next to stupid Brintey with a Pepsi in his hand. He is just a man doing and (hope so) loving his job

If you
> want to compose without being able to read, that's great.

Nah, it's really nothing to do with 'I want to compose but without being able to read coz that's tough' or something. I am 19 and I am in the field of music since the age of 6, and somehow my mom never sent me to music schools (coz here in my country there aren't many), it's just happened in this way. I am not happy with it though, but I accept it. And now I reached a level and it would be strange (and may be it wouldn't even work) If I would go to a school and start everything from the basic. It's like I have learnt how to play on the piano by myself and now I am confortable with my ability, but I know I would never be able to become a professional pianist, that ship has gone.

> I like that you write.

Thank You

Just think about the kind of example that you would be setting if
> somebody offers you a job that would make you a public figure.

That has already happened ...

Then, I
> would suggest going out there and learning how to read. Who knows? It
> might save your bacon one of these days.

Well true ... who knows ...

> All the best,

all the best to you too

> Ken Applegate
I am a composer myself, and I cant read music

Hehe, cool, may be we should send our stuff to each others one day.

I'll be off from tomorrow for 3 weeks. It suppose to be a holyday or what, but without my puter and workstation it will much more be a torture trip. I enjoyed to discuss with you ...

take care pal


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