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Comments about the soundtrack for Troy (Gabriel Yared/James Horner)
Horner's Score

Craig
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Francesco Gelli
Horner's Score   Thursday, June 24, 2004 (11:39 a.m.) 

A good score from Horner that works well with and supports the movie. The triumphant 2nd track and the action cues especially track 8 are complex, rich and add drama to the scene. Track 11 the finale was outstanding and evoked the pathos of Troy's demise. Lastly, the song Remember Me sung by Josh Groban is well sung, lyrical and deeply moving. It is emblematic of the fateful choice of Achilles: a short gloriuous life or a long and safe life in obscurity.

As to the repetitions of his earlier works, may I say to the Horner haters that Herrmann, Rozsa, Williams, Barry, Goldsmith et al all have similiar repetitions, or echoes of earlier works in their efforts. I am constrained to point out that the people we love most in our lives have similiar repetitions or echoes in their mannerism, personality, and habits that serve to endear them to us and provide a personal connection, a sense of comfort and familiarity, all essential qualities for human relationships. It is no different in that respect to our bond with our favorite film score composers. So measure your criticism more thoughtfully, and think twice before engaging in personal attacks. Giving oneself permission to blindly assign bad motives via supposition must always be condemned. May I close by saying that at least James Horner strives to enrich us and bring beauty into our lives with his music when there are all too many despicable people whose only contribution to life is animosity, hatred and violence. Thank you for the forum, have a nice day.


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Simoon
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Craig
Re: Horner's Score   Saturday, June 26, 2004 (5:32 a.m.) 

..... the people we love most in our lives have similiar
> repetitions or echoes in their mannerism, personality, and habits that
> serve to endear them to us and provide a personal connection, a sense of
> comfort and familiarity, all essential qualities for human relationships.
> It is no different in that respect to our bond with our favorite film
> score composers. So measure your criticism more thoughtfully, and think
> twice before engaging in personal attacks. Giving oneself permission to
> blindly assign bad motives via supposition must always be condemned. May I
> close by saying that at least James Horner strives to enrich us and bring
> beauty into our lives with his music when there are all too many
> despicable people whose only contribution to life is animosity, hatred and
> violence.

Very nice thing to say.....
Thanks

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Francesco Gelli
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Craig
Re: Horner's Score   Tuesday, November 16, 2004 (10:03 a.m.) 

> A good score from Horner that works well with and supports the movie. The
> triumphant 2nd track and the action cues especially track 8 are complex,
> rich and add drama to the scene. Track 11 the finale was outstanding and
> evoked the pathos of Troy's demise. Lastly, the song Remember Me sung by
> Josh Groban is well sung, lyrical and deeply moving. It is emblematic of
> the fateful choice of Achilles: a short gloriuous life or a long and safe
> life in obscurity.

> As to the repetitions of his earlier works, may I say to the Horner haters
> that Herrmann, Rozsa, Williams, Barry, Goldsmith et al all have similiar
> repetitions, or echoes of earlier works in their efforts. I am constrained
> to point out that the people we love most in our lives have similiar
> repetitions or echoes in their mannerism, personality, and habits that
> serve to endear them to us and provide a personal connection, a sense of
> comfort and familiarity, all essential qualities for human relationships.
> It is no different in that respect to our bond with our favorite film
> score composers. So measure your criticism more thoughtfully, and think
> twice before engaging in personal attacks. Giving oneself permission to
> blindly assign bad motives via supposition must always be condemned. May I
> close by saying that at least James Horner strives to enrich us and bring
> beauty into our lives with his music when there are all too many
> despicable people whose only contribution to life is animosity, hatred and
> violence. Thank you for the forum, have a nice day.

No matter. The score surely works in the movie; all Horner's scores do their job in a movie. But horner's soundrtracks seem assembled with the same musical material, which evolves quite slow in composer's career; a fact due, perhaps, to his poor melodic vein.

In the music of Goldsmith, Herrmann etc you may find echoes or similar harmonic solutions, but you'll never find a mere transcription of musical phrase from previous works. This only happens in Horner scores. When Horner has a new musical idea he builds it with old material and assemble a 'new' soundtrack. But if he has no new idea, don't worry! get up a little of Star Trek, a piece of Natty Gann, a little of Brainstorm's chorus, and voilą! A new soundtrack is ready for theatre.

He is a truly universal musician: you may use his musical fragments many times in many places.

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