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The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (1:13 p.m.) 

Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening to it so far.



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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (2:09 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

Yeah there were a couple threads about it before the old Scoreboard got redone. I'm surprised it's been as contentious as it has been - some are saying its one of the best of the year, and others are really bored by it. I dunno, I dug the heck out of it -- in fact, as of this afternoon, it's only the third score of 2021 I've listened to more than once.


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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (2:52 p.m.) 
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> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

I saw the film, and there wasn't much music in it at all. I've yet to hear the score, but what little I did pick up the beginning and ending of the film sounded nice.

I'll be curious to read some reviews on this, to see if HGW's score was only used partially in the film, or if perhaps we can expect a Ridley Scott extended cut of the film featuring more music.


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Re:   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (3:28 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

It's like Kingdom of Heaven if Kingdom of Heaven wasn't an action movie. So for those who love the medieval action stuff, it's probably quite boring and disappointing, but for those in it for period-y drama that's more in the Hollywood idiom than The Green Knight it's pleasant enough.


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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (6:41 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

Listened to it twice over the last few days and... it's good. Not really understanding the high praise from some circles, but it's a solid effort from Gregson-Williams that does evoke some of his stylings from Kingdom of Heaven just... way more moody and dour. Probably won't make my end of the year list, but still worth checking out.


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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (7:33 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

Iím getting increasingly excited to see the film (and itís getting harder and harder to resist listening to the score)!


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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (7:57 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

I enjoyed the movie and I do like the score for the most part. I am just a little more excited to see what Ridley Scott and Harry Gregson-Williams have in store for House of Gucci next month. Kind of weird that we get 2 Gregson-Williams scores back to back and both from films with the same director.


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Re: The Last Duel   Wednesday, October 20, 2021 (8:26 p.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

No I haven't yet listened... seriously need to get to this one. Anytime somebody mentions "Kingdom of Heaven" I get excited all over again. Wonderful score, that one. If Last Duel manages to recapture some of that magic then I'm all in.


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Re: The Last Duel   Thursday, October 21, 2021 (12:40 a.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

Listened to it in stand alone after seeing the film last week, and found it left a better impression than in context (which was not bad at all). There are similarities with Kingdom of Heaven, but I'm a little bit reluctant to compare this with that, as the tone of the film and the music is very different to me. KoH really has that epic soundscape in my mind which doesn't apply with that score.
Anyway, a nice experience IMHO, with some themes that keep running through my head. I don't think this will make my top 10, but it will be something I'll come back to happily time to time.

Jerome



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Re: The Last Duel   Thursday, October 21, 2021 (6:23 a.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

I needed multiple listens to fully appreciate it. The soundscape is bleak, but there are some fine passages, subtleties and the score excels when HGW writes for voice. A solid performance, i made a 12 minute suite, but it will not crack my top 20 for the year.

All the best.


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Re: The Last Duel   Thursday, October 21, 2021 (6:38 a.m.) 

> Anyone else listening to The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams? It
> reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven but not as heavy. I have enjoyed listening
> to it so far.

I think the range of positive and negative responses in this thread and elsewhere is probably due to 1) the score being very restrained and offering almost no moments of release until the very end, which might make the Kingdom of Heaven comparisons feel misleading (although I think they are valid), and 2) the piecemeal nature of the album, with so many cues at 2 minutes or shorter.

Both of those factors typically also make me enjoy a score less (including past HGW scores), but for several reasons I think this one works well (at least as a standalone experience). There are some super interesting things happening throughout that apparently tie to the plot of the film, which I haven't seen yet. This interview with HGW gives helpful context:

https://thespool.net/podcasts/harry-gregson-williams-the-last-duel-composer-interview-podcast/

I'm going to share an analysis at some point, just haven't found the time yet.


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