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A Road Less Traveled: A James Horner Journey (Part 4)
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Wednesday, June 5, 2024 (8:47 p.m.) 

The penultimate chapter in my brief travels of the lesser discussed Horner albums that I had yet to encounter myself. As before the previous parts can be found below:

Part 1: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133826
Part 2: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133940
Part 3: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133964

---------------

Radio (2003)



An inspirational sports drama from TV director/producer Michael Tollin, Radio follows the “based on a true story” tale of a South Carolina high school football coach (Ed Harris) who befriends and helps a young Black man with mental disabilities (Cuba Gooding Jr.). I vaguely remember seeing bits of this on TV in the mid 2000’s and thinking it was largely harmless fluff, though thinking back on it it’s most definitely a case of “trying to be “progressive” while instead being cringe” in pretty much all the ways one might imagine. Apparently critics at the time caught on to this moreso than pre-teen Ben as it got largely maligned upon release and only did so-so business at the box office.



Scoring duties were given to James Horner who by the early 2000’s was firmly in his post-Titanic “recycling drama scores” phase that either gave us some great works (The Missing, Enemy at the Gates, The Four Feathers) or… this. As a score Radio is perfectly serviceable within the small scale drama sound that by this point seemed second nature to Horner and the central theme (“Radio’s Day”) is as amiable as one might imagine… though it’s distractingly close to the opening phrase of “A Whole New World” from Alan Menken’s Aladdin (1992). Most of the meager 26 odd minutes of score on the commercial album are just variations on the Main theme mixed with all the expected Hornerisms of the period though some thriller-esque intensity is brought forth for the first half of “Resignation” and the electric guitar performances of A Perfect Storm briefly emerge during “Night Game” accompanied by snare drums.



Overall Radio is a perfectly middle-of-the-road Horner drama work that while it doesn’t do anything especially bad, also fails to do anything particularly memorable… either positive or negative. The album presentation thankfully presents all of the score tracks clustered together instead of interspersed with the various period appropriate songs, though the end credits song based around Horner’s primary theme (“Eyes of the Heart (Radio’s Song)” sung by India.Arie) is stuck at the front of the album. Anyway, unless one has a particular nostalgic fondness for this effort, there’s no need to go out of your way to track down the out of print album. 



Score:

2 1/2 out of 5



————————



Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius (2004)



A biopic sports drama about the life and career of professional golfer Bobby Jones who won all four of the major men’s golf tournaments in a single season during 1930. Directed by Rowdy Harrington (Road House) and starring Jim Caviezel, Claire Forlani, Malcolm McDowell and Aiden Quinn, Bobby Jones was a massive box office disappointment and ran afoul with critics who panned the films simplification of Jones’ life and the monotones pacing. Having never seen the film I cannot comment, but considering I never see it mentioned anywhere nor have come across used copies of the DVD at secondhand stores… I figure no-one cares about it. Unless you happen to be a Canuck named Riley who desperately loves the music by James Horner.



Sadly, this is another instance where me and Riley do not agree as despite the very pleasant and amiable nature of Bobby Jones… this thing is incredibly repetitive and languid. Essentially what Horner has done here is take the opening theme from Braveheart (at least on the 1995 album) and driven that melody into the ground while supplementing it with one of the secondary themes from Field of Dreams and some lesser motifs from Bicentennial Man (itself a “recycled score” but with far more nuance and energy). Oh, and slather the whole thing with the composers then trademark Celtic instrumentation alongside a full orchestra and synths for good measure. The end result is, as mentioned earlier, quite amiable in tone yet does absolutely nothing to set itself apart from all the other Horner drama scores… and its pacing makes this a perfect album to fall asleep to.



According to reviews of the film, the pacing therein is very monotonous and judging by the score album, I’d have to concede that it very much is. Honestly Bobby Jones reminded me of one of those City of Prague Philharmonic covers where the orchestration is mostly on-point but they somehow MASSIVELY screwed up the tempo so everything sounds like it’s stuck in sonic mud. That’s how Stroke of Genius feels. Anyway, despite all my griping about this one I can see where someone (i.e, Riley) could really love it for its easy going attitude and pleasant repeated thematic statements, though for me I’d rather just listen to the scores Bobby Jones is recycling ideas from. 

For the curious, the album is currently readily available on digital platforms, so go and make up ones own mind on this. Or don’t. Either way, I’m definitely off of the Christmas card list for Riley now….



Score:

2/5



———————————



The Forgotten (2004)



Hey, anyone remember this weird little Sci-Fi thriller about Julianne Moore trying to prove her memories of her son are real despite no physical evidence of him ever existing? And that at the end it’s all thanks to aliens?? Yeah, apparently hardly anyone else does despite the film doing decently at the box office (critics apparently hated it, though) leading this title to be… forgotten.



*ahem*



So James Horner got the gig to do the music and gives us a highly atmospheric acoustic-synthetic hybrid score that at times shows promises of something good… and then quickly falls apart. According to Clem’s review and hazy memories of trying to watch this many moons ago, the dichotomy in the score is to represent the maternal love of Moore’s character juxtaposed to the alien-thriller aspects. Makes perfect sense and could be rather intellectually engaging as music. Unfortunately Horner largely drops the ball by giving the maternal aspect an airy romantic idea not dissimilar to House of Sound and Fog or the New Age-y aspects of Titanic and then presenting the most lazy, atmospheric noodling for everything else. Thematically the score is centered around two ideas which play as counterpoint in the opening “An Unsettling Calm”: the aforementioned flowing primary theme heard on piano & violin and a darker, two-note motif often performed on metallic percussion. For obvious reasons the two-note motif becomes the dominating force for much of the runtime with the main theme finally reasserting itself in the closing trio fo tracks.



Of somewhat interesting note (though not really) is that Horner occasionally lets loose with some truly gnarly sounding industrial synth passages that burst out of seemingly nowhere that easily ranks as some of his worst material ever (previewed in the second half of “Remember”) Also worth mentioning is the inclusion of sound samples of children playing that opens and closes the score, again this apparently ties into the film but on album feels awkward and perhaps more disturbing than intended.



So yeah, this one is bad. The rather lovely if nebulous primary theme saves it from being utterly forgettable like Bopha! but once again one can’t help but feel Horner is delivering the bare minimum for this project. At the same time the mid 2000’s was the beginning of having studio thrillers or horror films eschew traditional thematic scores for “unsettling atmospherics” though there’s clearly a baseline attempt here to still be *somewhat* thematically driven… oh well. Unless one is a Horner completionist or wants to check out the fleeting but nice main theme, The Forgotten is one effort that is probably best left… forgotten.

OK, I’ll see myself out now.



Score:

1 1/2 out of 5


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Well, I haven't heard any of these and was unlikely to do so unless being a Horner completist turns into a job requirement or something like that.

> Unless one is a Horner completionist or wants to check out the fleeting but nice main theme, The Forgotten is one effort that is probably best left… forgotten.

I've made my share of film score dad jokes over the years. Having said that...OOOF!


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Thursday, June 6, 2024 (7:15 p.m.) 

> Well, I haven't heard any of these and was unlikely to do so unless being
> a Horner completist turns into a job requirement or something like that.

Heh, well, in my not-so-humble opinion you're not missing anything from this batch... outside of Radio, maybe.

> I've made my share of film score dad jokes over the years. Having said
> that...OOOF!

XDD

You complimented my lack of a Dad joke for Jack the Bear, so here's my response. "Are you not entertained?!??" wink tongue


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Thursday, June 6, 2024 (9:25 a.m.) 

> The penultimate chapter in my brief travels of the lesser discussed Horner
> albums that I had yet to encounter myself. As before the previous parts
> can be found below:

> Part 1: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133826
> Part 2: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133940
> Part 3: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133964

> ---------------

> Radio (2003)



> An inspirational sports drama from TV director/producer Michael Tollin,
> Radio follows the “based on a true story” tale of a South Carolina
> high school football coach (Ed Harris) who befriends and helps a young
> Black man with mental disabilities (Cuba Gooding Jr.). I vaguely remember
> seeing bits of this on TV in the mid 2000’s and thinking it was largely
> harmless fluff, though thinking back on it it’s most definitely a case of
> “trying to be “progressive” while instead being cringe” in pretty much all
> the ways one might imagine. Apparently critics at the time caught on to
> this moreso than pre-teen Ben as it got largely maligned upon release and
> only did so-so business at the box office.



> Scoring duties were given to James Horner who by the early 2000’s was
> firmly in his post-Titanic “recycling drama scores” phase that
> either gave us some great works (The Missing, Enemy at the
> Gates
, The Four Feathers) or… this. As a score Radio is
> perfectly serviceable within the small scale drama sound that by this
> point seemed second nature to Horner and the central theme (“Radio’s
> Day
”) is as amiable as one might imagine… though it’s distractingly
> close to the opening phrase of “A Whole New World” from Alan
> Menken’s Aladdin (1992). Most of the meager 26 odd minutes of score
> on the commercial album are just variations on the Main theme mixed with
> all the expected Hornerisms of the period though some thriller-esque
> intensity is brought forth for the first half of “Resignation” and the
> electric guitar performances of A Perfect Storm briefly emerge
> during “Night Game” accompanied by snare drums.



> Overall Radio is a perfectly middle-of-the-road Horner drama work
> that while it doesn’t do anything especially bad, also fails to do
> anything particularly memorable… either positive or negative. The album
> presentation thankfully presents all of the score tracks clustered
> together instead of interspersed with the various period appropriate
> songs, though the end credits song based around Horner’s primary theme
> (“Eyes of the Heart (Radio’s Song)” sung by India.Arie) is stuck at
> the front of the album. Anyway, unless one has a particular nostalgic
> fondness for this effort, there’s no need to go out of your way to track
> down the out of print album. 



> Score:
> 
2 1/2 out of 5

I need to find a more complete version of this. Does it exist somewhere? Does it flesh out a more satisfying score? Horner doing inspirational sports drama should be gold.

> 

————————

> 

Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius (2004)



> A biopic sports drama about the life and career of professional golfer
> Bobby Jones who won all four of the major men’s golf tournaments in a
> single season during 1930. Directed by Rowdy Harrington (Road House) and
> starring Jim Caviezel, Claire Forlani, Malcolm McDowell and Aiden Quinn,
> Bobby Jones was a massive box office disappointment and ran afoul
> with critics who panned the films simplification of Jones’ life and the
> monotones pacing. Having never seen the film I cannot comment, but
> considering I never see it mentioned anywhere nor have come across used
> copies of the DVD at secondhand stores… I figure no-one cares about it.
> Unless you happen to be a Canuck named Riley who desperately loves the
> music by James Horner.

> 

Sadly, this is another instance where me and Riley do not
> agree as despite the very pleasant and amiable nature of Bobby
> Jones
… this thing is incredibly repetitive and languid. Essentially
> what Horner has done here is take the opening theme from Braveheart
> (at least on the 1995 album) and driven that melody into the ground while
> supplementing it with one of the secondary themes from Field of
> Dreams
and some lesser motifs from Bicentennial Man (itself a
> “recycled score” but with far more nuance and energy). Oh, and slather the
> whole thing with the composers then trademark Celtic instrumentation
> alongside a full orchestra and synths for good measure. The end result is,
> as mentioned earlier, quite amiable in tone yet does absolutely nothing to
> set itself apart from all the other Horner drama scores… and its pacing
> makes this a perfect album to fall asleep to.



> According to reviews of the film, the pacing therein is very monotonous
> and judging by the score album, I’d have to concede that it very much is.
> Honestly Bobby Jones reminded me of one of those City of Prague
> Philharmonic covers where the orchestration is mostly on-point but they
> somehow MASSIVELY screwed up the tempo so everything sounds like it’s
> stuck in sonic mud. That’s how Stroke of Genius feels. Anyway,
> despite all my griping about this one I can see where someone (i.e, Riley)
> could really love it for its easy going attitude and pleasant repeated
> thematic statements, though for me I’d rather just listen to the scores
> Bobby Jones is recycling ideas from. 

For the curious,
> the album is currently readily available on digital platforms, so go and
> make up ones own mind on this. Or don’t. Either way, I’m definitely off of
> the Christmas card list for Riley now….



> Score:
> 
2/5

HARD disagree!!! Dude, I love this score. The main theme is a total ear worm. There are passages that hit the soul strings. But yeah there is recycling blah blah. Maybe its because I first heard this when it came out and so its nostalgic for me. Funny how certain 2nd-tier Horner scores like this can wildly run the spectrum for people between indifference and completely infatuation. His career is unique that way.

> 

———————————

> 

The Forgotten (2004)

> 

Hey, anyone remember this weird little Sci-Fi thriller about
> Julianne Moore trying to prove her memories of her son are real despite no
> physical evidence of him ever existing? And that at the end it’s all
> thanks to aliens?? Yeah, apparently hardly anyone else does despite the
> film doing decently at the box office (critics apparently hated it,
> though) leading this title to be… forgotten.

> 

*ahem*

> 

So James Horner got the gig to do the music and gives us a
> highly atmospheric acoustic-synthetic hybrid score that at times shows
> promises of something good… and then quickly falls apart. According to
> Clem’s review and hazy memories of trying to watch this many moons ago,
> the dichotomy in the score is to represent the maternal love of Moore’s
> character juxtaposed to the alien-thriller aspects. Makes perfect sense
> and could be rather intellectually engaging as music. Unfortunately Horner
> largely drops the ball by giving the maternal aspect an airy romantic idea
> not dissimilar to House of Sound and Fog or the New Age-y aspects
> of Titanic and then presenting the most lazy, atmospheric noodling
> for everything else. Thematically the score is centered around two ideas
> which play as counterpoint in the opening “An Unsettling Calm”: the
> aforementioned flowing primary theme heard on piano & violin and a
> darker, two-note motif often performed on metallic percussion. For obvious
> reasons the two-note motif becomes the dominating force for much of the
> runtime with the main theme finally reasserting itself in the closing trio
> fo tracks.

> 

Of somewhat interesting note (though not really) is that
> Horner occasionally lets loose with some truly gnarly sounding industrial
> synth passages that burst out of seemingly nowhere that easily ranks as
> some of his worst material ever (previewed in the second half of
> “Remember”) Also worth mentioning is the inclusion of sound samples
> of children playing that opens and closes the score, again this apparently
> ties into the film but on album feels awkward and perhaps more disturbing
> than intended.

> 

So yeah, this one is bad. The rather lovely if nebulous
> primary theme saves it from being utterly forgettable like Bopha!
> but once again one can’t help but feel Horner is delivering the bare
> minimum for this project. At the same time the mid 2000’s was the
> beginning of having studio thrillers or horror films eschew traditional
> thematic scores for “unsettling atmospherics” though there’s clearly a
> baseline attempt here to still be *somewhat* thematically driven… oh well.
> Unless one is a Horner completionist or wants to check out the fleeting
> but nice main theme, The Forgotten is one effort that is probably
> best left… forgotten.

OK, I’ll see myself out
> now.



> Score:
> 
1 1/2 out of 5

Now this one we agree on. Horner scores in the category of low budget synthy keyboard pads and piano improvisation mode are .... pretty forgettable. Oooof!

N8



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Thursday, June 6, 2024 (7:21 p.m.) 

> I need to find a more complete version of this. Does it exist somewhere?
> Does it flesh out a more satisfying score? Horner doing inspirational
> sports drama should be gold.

According to Riley, there's apparently an expanded bootleg floating around. My review is just based off of the original commercial album, though I wouldn't mind hearing an expanded/complete version.

> HARD disagree!!! Dude, I love this score. The main theme is a total ear
> worm. There are passages that hit the soul strings. But yeah there is
> recycling blah blah. Maybe its because I first heard this when it came out
> and so its nostalgic for me. Funny how certain 2nd-tier Horner scores like
> this can wildly run the spectrum for people between indifference and
> completely infatuation. His career is unique that way.

As I mentioned, I can totally see someone(s) being infatuated with the overall pleasant mood and lovely themes it's just... for me... Horner did it all better in the scores he's recycling from here and I'd rather just hear those earlier (IMO better) versions. That said Horner's recycling habit doesn't bother me that much (heck, he's tied as my #1 favorite film composer ever) so that alone isn't why Bobby Jones doesn't rank very highly for me. All this said, I'm glad you and Riley are able to find a lot of joy from this one. smile

> Now this one we agree on. Horner scores in the category of low budget
> synthy keyboard pads and piano improvisation mode are .... pretty
> forgettable. Oooof!

Ha! JonB, we have another one!! tongue

> N8



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Thursday, June 6, 2024 (2:18 p.m.) 

> The penultimate chapter in my brief travels of the lesser discussed Horner
> albums that I had yet to encounter myself. As before the previous parts
> can be found below:

> Part 1: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133826
> Part 2: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133940
> Part 3: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=133964

> ---------------

> Radio (2003)



> An inspirational sports drama from TV director/producer Michael Tollin,
> Radio follows the “based on a true story” tale of a South Carolina
> high school football coach (Ed Harris) who befriends and helps a young
> Black man with mental disabilities (Cuba Gooding Jr.). I vaguely remember
> seeing bits of this on TV in the mid 2000’s and thinking it was largely
> harmless fluff, though thinking back on it it’s most definitely a case of
> “trying to be “progressive” while instead being cringe” in pretty much all
> the ways one might imagine. Apparently critics at the time caught on to
> this moreso than pre-teen Ben as it got largely maligned upon release and
> only did so-so business at the box office.



> Scoring duties were given to James Horner who by the early 2000’s was
> firmly in his post-Titanic “recycling drama scores” phase that
> either gave us some great works (The Missing, Enemy at the
> Gates
, The Four Feathers) or… this. As a score Radio is
> perfectly serviceable within the small scale drama sound that by this
> point seemed second nature to Horner and the central theme (“Radio’s
> Day
”) is as amiable as one might imagine… though it’s distractingly
> close to the opening phrase of “A Whole New World” from Alan
> Menken’s Aladdin (1992). Most of the meager 26 odd minutes of score
> on the commercial album are just variations on the Main theme mixed with
> all the expected Hornerisms of the period though some thriller-esque
> intensity is brought forth for the first half of “Resignation” and the
> electric guitar performances of A Perfect Storm briefly emerge
> during “Night Game” accompanied by snare drums.



> Overall Radio is a perfectly middle-of-the-road Horner drama work
> that while it doesn’t do anything especially bad, also fails to do
> anything particularly memorable… either positive or negative. The album
> presentation thankfully presents all of the score tracks clustered
> together instead of interspersed with the various period appropriate
> songs, though the end credits song based around Horner’s primary theme
> (“Eyes of the Heart (Radio’s Song)” sung by India.Arie) is stuck at
> the front of the album. Anyway, unless one has a particular nostalgic
> fondness for this effort, there’s no need to go out of your way to track
> down the out of print album. 



> Score:
> 
2 1/2 out of 5

Ahhh, that's a bit harsh. Try and find the expanded score which is still only like 50 minutes but it's a very pleasant 50 minutes.

> 

————————

> 

Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius (2004)



> A biopic sports drama about the life and career of professional golfer
> Bobby Jones who won all four of the major men’s golf tournaments in a
> single season during 1930. Directed by Rowdy Harrington (Road House) and
> starring Jim Caviezel, Claire Forlani, Malcolm McDowell and Aiden Quinn,
> Bobby Jones was a massive box office disappointment and ran afoul
> with critics who panned the films simplification of Jones’ life and the
> monotones pacing. Having never seen the film I cannot comment, but
> considering I never see it mentioned anywhere nor have come across used
> copies of the DVD at secondhand stores… I figure no-one cares about it.
> Unless you happen to be a Canuck named Riley who desperately loves the
> music by James Horner.

> 

Sadly, this is another instance where me and Riley do not
> agree as despite the very pleasant and amiable nature of Bobby
> Jones
… this thing is incredibly repetitive and languid. Essentially
> what Horner has done here is take the opening theme from Braveheart
> (at least on the 1995 album) and driven that melody into the ground while
> supplementing it with one of the secondary themes from Field of
> Dreams
and some lesser motifs from Bicentennial Man (itself a
> “recycled score” but with far more nuance and energy). Oh, and slather the
> whole thing with the composers then trademark Celtic instrumentation
> alongside a full orchestra and synths for good measure. The end result is,
> as mentioned earlier, quite amiable in tone yet does absolutely nothing to
> set itself apart from all the other Horner drama scores… and its pacing
> makes this a perfect album to fall asleep to.



> According to reviews of the film, the pacing therein is very monotonous
> and judging by the score album, I’d have to concede that it very much is.
> Honestly Bobby Jones reminded me of one of those City of Prague
> Philharmonic covers where the orchestration is mostly on-point but they
> somehow MASSIVELY screwed up the tempo so everything sounds like it’s
> stuck in sonic mud. That’s how Stroke of Genius feels. Anyway,
> despite all my griping about this one I can see where someone (i.e, Riley)
> could really love it for its easy going attitude and pleasant repeated
> thematic statements, though for me I’d rather just listen to the scores
> Bobby Jones is recycling ideas from. 

For the curious,
> the album is currently readily available on digital platforms, so go and
> make up ones own mind on this. Or don’t. Either way, I’m definitely off of
> the Christmas card list for Riley now….



> Score:
> 
2/5

So first off, how dare you?

Secondly, GET OUT!

Thirdly...come on man, it's SO FARKIN LOVELY!!!!!!!!!!!

Fourthly, yeah, the blatant Braveheart rip off is kind of hilarious. And egregious. Yet I don't care cause it's such a great theme. Why not use it twice?!

Bah humbug I say.

> 

———————————

> 

The Forgotten (2004)

> 

Hey, anyone remember this weird little Sci-Fi thriller about
> Julianne Moore trying to prove her memories of her son are real despite no
> physical evidence of him ever existing? And that at the end it’s all
> thanks to aliens?? Yeah, apparently hardly anyone else does despite the
> film doing decently at the box office (critics apparently hated it,
> though) leading this title to be… forgotten.

> 

*ahem*

I actually do remember that movie, though for no other reason than I was watching it with a super hot girl I had a crush on way back in 2004 and I was so sweaty and nervous the whole time she was sitting beside me. Probably thought I was scared of the stupid ass movie or something, but no...was just reeeeeally hoping I was gonna get lucky during a Julianne Moore kidnapping movie with aliens.

No dice. So fuck that movie, never saw it again :P

> 

So James Horner got the gig to do the music and gives us a
> highly atmospheric acoustic-synthetic hybrid score that at times shows
> promises of something good… and then quickly falls apart. According to
> Clem’s review and hazy memories of trying to watch this many moons ago,
> the dichotomy in the score is to represent the maternal love of Moore’s
> character juxtaposed to the alien-thriller aspects. Makes perfect sense
> and could be rather intellectually engaging as music. Unfortunately Horner
> largely drops the ball by giving the maternal aspect an airy romantic idea
> not dissimilar to House of Sound and Fog or the New Age-y aspects
> of Titanic and then presenting the most lazy, atmospheric noodling
> for everything else. Thematically the score is centered around two ideas
> which play as counterpoint in the opening “An Unsettling Calm”: the
> aforementioned flowing primary theme heard on piano & violin and a
> darker, two-note motif often performed on metallic percussion. For obvious
> reasons the two-note motif becomes the dominating force for much of the
> runtime with the main theme finally reasserting itself in the closing trio
> fo tracks.

> 

Of somewhat interesting note (though not really) is that
> Horner occasionally lets loose with some truly gnarly sounding industrial
> synth passages that burst out of seemingly nowhere that easily ranks as
> some of his worst material ever (previewed in the second half of
> “Remember”) Also worth mentioning is the inclusion of sound samples
> of children playing that opens and closes the score, again this apparently
> ties into the film but on album feels awkward and perhaps more disturbing
> than intended.

> 

So yeah, this one is bad. The rather lovely if nebulous
> primary theme saves it from being utterly forgettable like Bopha!
> but once again one can’t help but feel Horner is delivering the bare
> minimum for this project. At the same time the mid 2000’s was the
> beginning of having studio thrillers or horror films eschew traditional
> thematic scores for “unsettling atmospherics” though there’s clearly a
> baseline attempt here to still be *somewhat* thematically driven… oh well.
> Unless one is a Horner completionist or wants to check out the fleeting
> but nice main theme, The Forgotten is one effort that is probably
> best left… forgotten.

OK, I’ll see myself out
> now.



> Score:
> 
1 1/2 out of 5

It's not very good, I'll give you this one. Though how such a rambling discordant unpleasant album only gets half a star less than beautiful Scottish bagpipes and soaring orchestral loveliness, I'll never understand :/


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Thursday, June 6, 2024 (7:29 p.m.) 

> Ahhh, that's a bit harsh. Try and find the expanded score which is still
> only like 50 minutes but it's a very pleasant 50 minutes.

I might dig around for that... at some point.

> So first off, how dare you?

Quite easily, actually.

> Secondly, GET OUT!

No Riley, this is Bobby Jones. Remember?

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> Thirdly...come on man, it's SO FARKIN LOVELY!!!!!!!!!!!

It is... but Braveheart, Field of Dreams and Bicentennial Man did it better.

> Fourthly, yeah, the blatant Braveheart rip off is kind of hilarious. And
> egregious. Yet I don't care cause it's such a great theme. Why not use it
> twice?!

> Bah humbug I say.

As I told Nate, despite not being on the same page as y'all on this one, I can totally see why y'all would like it so much and glad you find such enjoyment in it. As for me, again, I'd rather just listen to the prior scores Horner was recycling from here. smile

> I actually do remember that movie, though for no other reason than I was
> watching it with a super hot girl I had a crush on way back in 2004 and I
> was so sweaty and nervous the whole time she was sitting beside me.
> Probably thought I was scared of the stupid ass movie or something, but
> no...was just reeeeeally hoping I was gonna get lucky during a Julianne
> Moore kidnapping movie with aliens.

> No dice. So fuck that movie, never saw it again :P

Oh, well... yeah. Definitely not a good experience/memory to have with a movie. If it's any consolation, my vague memory of trying to watch The Forgotten was mostly skipping around and then watching the ending and going "... wait. WHAT???". tongue

> It's not very good, I'll give you this one. Though how such a rambling
> discordant unpleasant album only gets half a star less than beautiful
> Scottish bagpipes and soaring orchestral loveliness, I'll never understand
> :/

*shrugs*

It happens. If you want you can add an extra half-a-point for Bobby if it makes you feel better.



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I've also not heard any of these scores outside of their films, but I'm enjoying this series so much I felt compelled to to respond.

> Radio (2003)



> Score:
> 
2 1/2 out of 5

Anytime I see this film mentioned, I can't help but think of the "You never go full retard" speech from Tropic Thunder. Cuba Gooding Jr. never could quite translate that Oscar win from Jerry McGuire to future success.

From what I recall in the film, the score was a middling effort, so your rating seems spot on.

> 

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> 

Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius (2004)



> Score:
> 
2/5

I always seem to get this film/score confused with the other golf movie from around the same time (Greatest Game Ever Played). Again, only heard it in the film, but I think I'm closer to Riley's views on it than yours (but not by much).

> 

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> 

The Forgotten (2004) 


> Score:
> 
1 1/2 out of 5

Here's a fun bit of trivia. In 2004, Horner's music for Troy was used as the basis for the song for that film, "Remember", which was the same year he scored "The Forgotten". I don't know why I find that amusing, but I do.



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