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The Basil Poledouris Journey: Episode 5 (Robo3, kids animal flick & 1 of 2 Seagal

The Basil Poledouris Journey: Episode 5 (Robo3, kids animal flick & 1 of 2 Seagal
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The previous entries in this series can be found below:

Part 1: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=139461
Part 2: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=139645
Part 3: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=139963
Part 4: https://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=140222

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Robocop 3 (1993)



The fact that Paul Verhoeven’s hyper violent and scathingly satirical 1987 Sci-Fi/action flick spawned a franchise of sequels, TV shows, toys and comic books is simultaneously kinda baffling yet also unironically plays into the very themes of that original film. Anyway, a 1990 sequel was made without Verhoeven’s involvement that continued the hard R rated violence and satirical tone of the first film which, while not setting the box office ablaze, apparently did well enough to green light a third entry. A third entry that was forced to be a PG-13 offering instead of an R and feature various elements to tie into the concurrent toy line. Yep, it’s one of those. When the film finally released in ’93 after delays thanks to Orion Pictures going bankrupt, it did “meh” at the box office which canned the franchise until a reboot 2014… which also didn’t go anywhere.



After not being available for Robocop 2, and thus getting a score by Leonard Rosenman instead, Poledouris made a triumphant return for this third outing… which also continues the trend of Basil getting stuck with vastly inferior sequels to projects he previously worked on. Stylistically Robo 3 feels like a merging of the first score with Poledouris’ more robust dramatic side heard in his work from the prior three or four years (Quigley, Farewell to the King, White Fang). The end result is a more orchestral forward score that emphasizes the drama and downplays the satire, for better or worse. Thematically Poledouris brings back most of the core themes from the first film while adding a handful of new identities for various characters and concepts ranging from good (the delicate theme for Nikko, that Farewell to the King & pre-Starship Troopers idea for the Rebels) to decent (the militaristic piece for the new baddies) to just… OK (looking at you, stereotypical Asian motif).



As with his other, better works Poledouris makes extensive use of all these themes and motifs with some really nice orchestrations including some very 90’s Goldsmithian mixing of synths and orchestra (“Robo Recalls/Murphy Is It You?” particularly sounding like The Shadow). If one disliked the more raw soundscape of the 1987 original, then I can see Robocop 3 being an improvement for you. As for me, I prefer that slightly more raw ’87 take as well as the satirical commercial cues instead of the lighter, kiddie music that occasionally pops up here for… well, the kid character. Still, if you like Poledouris and his Robocop music, still give this a chance and just forget about the Rosenman sequel and that awful 2014 installment….



SCORE:

3/5



NOTE:


There are two albums available for Robocop 3, the original short 1993 release and a complete Deluxe Edition from Varase Sarabande. The latter has superior sound quality and gives a fuller view of everything Poledouris was doing in the score, though the shorter ’93 album is perhaps the better listening experience delivering an adrenaline pumping highlight reel.



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Free Willy (1993)



Or Michael Jackson’s favorite kind of sale.



O.K, I swear I won’t make anymore MJ jokes in this review. Just had to get one out at the start. 



A highly profitable installment in the ever popular “a boy and his…” subgenre of coming-of-age and family friendly films, this is another one of those “essential” 90’s flicks that I’ve still never seen. Produced in part by the Donner’s (Richard and his wife) and featuring a very early 90’s cast including Lori Petty, Michael Madsen, Michael Ironside and Danielle Harris, Free Willy was a massive commercial success and has been cemented in Pop culture thanks to the iconic “orca jumping over young boy” climatic scene. It also features a soundtrack that mixes oddly sensual R&B tunes in the front half with Poledouris’ score in the second, bookended by “Will You Be There” performed by Michael Jackson… which was apparently a massive radio hit despite having never heard of it before? EDIT: Oh, apparently it was originally on his 1991 album Dangerous.

Anyway, Basil’s score is a delight.

A mixture of Wind with the orchestral weight of Blue Lagoon and some of the synth effects from Hunt for Red October, this is probably the best sounding/mixed version of Poledouris’ hybrid sound I’ve encountered on this journey. The themes are also great, though that shouldn’t be much of a surprise by now, with Poledouris’ effortlessly weaving the two primary ideas together in the closing “Farewell Suite” to maximum emotional impact. There’s a few instances of a very synth-Pop style rhythm which might be off-putting to some sensibilities, but honestly given the contemporary setting of the film it works fine. Overall Free Willy is great family friendly score from Poledouris and yet another case on this journey where I regret having never heard it before now.



SCORE:

4/5



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On Deadly Ground (1994)



I have never watched a single Steven Seagal film. Ever.



Apparently Basil scored two of his flicks in the 90’s, though, and I’m hoping Under Siege 2 is a vast improvement over On Deadly Ground because this one is very.. eh? The film was apparently a vanity project for Seagal with the man starring, directing and producing with a supporting cast including Michael Caine as the villain (!!) in a story about fighting against corrupt oil business in Alaska. The film was a commercial and critical failure.



Unfortunately Poledouris’ score seems to have also suffered as the work is largely thriller material anchored by a “do Rambo, but don’t make it LOOK like you’re ripping off Rambo” primary theme (“Main Titles”) before all musical hell breaks loose in the second half. There’s some valiant attempts by Basil to add authentic Inuit elements into the score, which honestly makes up most of the highlights particularly in the mystical “The Journey” cue, but gets shortchanged by a weak recording and an undersized (and not particularly good) ensemble. It’s by no means the worst music you’ll ever hear, but at nearly 80 minutes long on the Deluxe Edition album, this can be a repetitive chore to get through despite Basil’s best attempts. While the recording quality isn’t as crisp, I highly recommend going with the shorter 30 minute album for a concise “best of” from On Deadly Ground. Besides that, this is an interesting if ultimately frustratingly slight look at Poledouris essentially trying to do a Goldsmith action-thriller.



SCORE:

2 1/2 out of 5



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> Robocop 3 (1993)



> SCORE:

> 3/5

I'd give this 4 stars easily. His original Robocop score is still the best, but this one is a bit more thematically complex, especially in it's expanded presentation.

Also, I consider the film to be one of the worst one's in my collection (I got the trilogy set mainly for the first 2), but much like A Good Day to Die Hard, and the least the composer was able to deliver something good out of sequel films where everything else was a dumpster fire.

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> Free Willy (1993)

> SCORE:

> 4/5

5-Stars. It's a masterpiece and my favorite Poledouris score. I think I ranked it higher than anyone in the community extravaganza (in my top 20). My family loved watching this film in the 90's, and the music connected with me at a very early age, so much that when I finally got into collecting scores many years later and picked it up, I was surprised how much I remembered from the film. It's a shame the blu-ray is now OOP and so expensive, b/c I've been wanting to watch it again.

Also, this was my first experience with Michael Jackson, and his song from this film remains one of my favorites from him. The VHS of Free Willy had a music video of Orca's set to the song (back before bonus features were really a thing like they became with DVDs). Lots of nostalgia attached to the film and music for me, if you couldn't tell lol.

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> On Deadly Ground (1994)

> 

I have never watched a single Steven Seagal film. Ever.

I think I've seen 3. Both Under Siege movies, and his bit in Executive Decision. Oh wait, he was in one of the Machete movies too, right? So maybe 4.

If I ever watch another (I don't intend to), it might be this one just for My Cocaine.

> SCORE:
> 
2 1/2 out of 5


I'd agree with this. It's decent, but you wouldn't be missing much by skipping it.



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> I'd give this 4 stars easily. His original Robocop score is still the
> best, but this one is a bit more thematically complex, especially in it's
> expanded presentation.

I kept waffling on what rating to give until I re-listened to the original.

> Also, I consider the film to be one of the worst one's in my collection (I
> got the trilogy set mainly for the first 2), but much like A Good Day to
> Die Hard, and the least the composer was able to deliver something good
> out of sequel films where everything else was a dumpster fire.

I still haven't seen either 2 or 3 outside of clips and YT reviews. Wouldn't mind checking out Robo 2, but I think I'm fine never seeing the third one. tongue

> 5-Stars. It's a masterpiece and my favorite Poledouris score. I think I
> ranked it higher than anyone in the community extravaganza (in my top 20).
> My family loved watching this film in the 90's, and the music connected
> with me at a very early age, so much that when I finally got into
> collecting scores many years later and picked it up, I was surprised how
> much I remembered from the film. It's a shame the blu-ray is now OOP and
> so expensive, b/c I've been wanting to watch it again.

> Also, this was my first experience with Michael Jackson, and his song from
> this film remains one of my favorites from him. The VHS of Free Willy had
> a music video of Orca's set to the song (back before bonus features were
> really a thing like they became with DVDs). Lots of nostalgia attached to
> the film and music for me, if you couldn't tell lol.

Haha, well, I definitely don't hold anything against you for loving this more than I especially with the nostalgia element. Like Cherry 2000, I wouldn't be surprised if my rating for Free Willy creeps up over the years but for a first time listen, I'm confident in the current position.

> I think I've seen 3. Both Under Siege movies, and his bit in Executive
> Decision. Oh wait, he was in one of the Machete movies too, right? So
> maybe 4.

> If I ever watch another (I don't intend to), it might be this one just for
> My Cocaine.

Finding out Caine is the villain in this *did* pique my interest to maybe check it out... or just find clips of Caine on YouTube. tongue


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> 

I have never watched a single Steven Seagal film. Ever.

I like him. All the other action stars of the era were the guys guys could fantasize about being. Seagal was the guy dads actually saw in the mirror, especially as he was getting into the post-breakout era. But there's something likeable in his earnestness, a reason he's to this day still pumping out VOD actioners.


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> I like him. All the other action stars of the era were the guys guys could
> fantasize about being. Seagal was the guy dads actually saw in the mirror,
> especially as he was getting into the post-breakout era. But there's
> something likeable in his earnestness, a reason he's to this day still
> pumping out VOD actioners.

I might check one or two of his flicks out at some point. I'm honestly kinda surprised I've never seen anything he was in, same with Chuck Norris, despite knowing about him most of my life.


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> Robocop 3 (1993)



I like it more than you do, though only at a 3.5/5 level. Aside from some prior score cut-and-paste a la Conan the Destroyer, my main challenge with this work is that its new themes aren't extensively developed throughout the score (appearing but not evolving much, in other words). That scattershot feeling has more to do with the narrative than anything on Poledouris' part, but hey, them's the breaks.

> Free Willy (1993)

Much higher on this one than I was when I posted my Poledouris rankings years ago. 4.5/5.

> There’s a few instances of a very synth-Pop style rhythm which might be off-putting to some sensibilities, but honestly given the contemporary setting of the film it works fine.

Yes, in addition to that just being part of his style since (I guess) Cherry 2000 and also being a natural evolution from the prior year's Wind, the synths also likely double as a representation of the modern aquarium - or at least I guess so, since it's been YEARS since I've seen this movie and all I remember is the whale jumping over the kid at the end.



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> I like it more than you do, though only at a 3.5/5 level. Aside from some
> prior score cut-and-paste a la Conan the Destroyer, my main
> challenge with this work is that its new themes aren't extensively
> developed throughout the score (appearing but not evolving much, in other
> words). That scattershot feeling has more to do with the narrative than
> anything on Poledouris' part, but hey, them's the breaks.

I did take into consideration my knowledge of what a train wreck the film itself was when evaluating Robo 3, though even then it feels like a "two steps forward, one step back" affair, sadly. I do wonder if Poledouris had been able to score the second film instead if his efforts would have been better/compared more favorably to the first one.

> Much higher on this one than I was when I posted my Poledouris rankings
> years ago. 4.5/5.

Don't remember what your original rating for Willy was back then, so your shame is safe with me. Or something. tongue

> Yes, in addition to that just being part of his style since (I guess)
> Cherry 2000 and also being a natural evolution from the prior
> year's Wind, the synths also likely double as a representation of
> the modern aquarium - or at least I guess so, since it's been YEARS since
> I've seen this movie and all I remember is the whale jumping over the kid
> at the end.

That would make intellectual sense. Going purely on the album assembly and track titles (which, as we all know, lie more often than not) the synth-Pop elements only seem to appear for the middle portion of the story.



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