"The third previously unreleased track (at least, on Dances With Wolves CDs, that is) is from the Narada album, Last Frontier, and it is very misplaced in the middle of Barry's score. Why it appears here is beyond me (perhaps it was a push by the label to insert another of its artists into an already popular album); either way, it serves no purpose to the score."

Ouch! This musical cue is to what the LA Times called the "pivotal scene". Do your homework! I was asked to write it and went on to work with Costner and Barry (independently) on other projects - they must not have thought it was "very misplaced".

just passing through and thought I'd set the record straight (no pun intended)

> Ouch! This musical cue is to what the LA Times called the "pivotal
> scene". Do your homework! I was asked to write it and went on to work
> with Costner and Barry (independently) on other projects - they must not
> have thought it was "very misplaced".

I have to agree. This WAS a pivital scene because it symbolized both the Spirit of Dunbars' past (Cisco) and his future (Two Socks) converging. He would soon have to choose one road to his ultimate destiny. Two Socks was truly Dunbar's Spirit Guide and helped Dunbar choose the only road left open to him. All the paths that Dunbar had taken up to that point were gone. It started with the suicide of his new commanding officer which was followed by the death of Timmons.

"Serves no purpose in the score"?! Haven't you guy's even seen the film?! Fire Dance had an breathtaking cue when John Dunbar danced around a roaring bonfire! Don't you guy's SEE THE FILM before you JUDGE THE MUSIC!!!

> "Serves no purpose in the score"?! Haven't you guy's even
> seen the film?! Fire Dance had an breathtaking cue when John
> Dunbar danced around a roaring bonfire! Don't you guy's SEE THE FILM
> before you JUDGE THE MUSIC!!!

SHUT UP RETARD NO ONE LIKES YOU BECAUSE YOU SMELL /:P

> Ouch! This musical cue is to what the LA Times called the "pivotal
> scene". Do your homework! I was asked to write it and went on to work
> with Costner and Barry (independently) on other projects - they must not
> have thought it was "very misplaced".

That all may be true, but it doesn't mesh well with Barry's original score. I don't have anything against the fire dance cue, but it should have gone at the end of the album. Where it is on the album, it is too harsh a contrast.

By the way, your link doesn't work. Maybe they took the site off. Wasting cyberspace?

No, the link was missing a "t" in my last name.

How nice it is to see a post from some1 from the film world. Hello, Peter, I thought your work on Dances With Wolves & The Scarlet Letter was excellent. Godspeed to you.

> "The third previously unreleased track (at least, on Dances With
> Wolves CDs, that is) is from the Narada album, Last Frontier, and it is
> very misplaced in the middle of Barry's score. Why it appears here is
> beyond me (perhaps it was a push by the label to insert another of its
> artists into an already popular album); either way, it serves no purpose
> to the score."
> Ouch! This musical cue is to what the LA Times called the "pivotal
> scene". Do your homework! I was asked to write it and went on to work
> with Costner and Barry (independently) on other projects - they must not
> have thought it was "very misplaced".
> just passing through and thought I'd set the record straight (no pun
> intended)

Hi Peter Firstly, it's great to replay to the actual person who wrote the music which is discussed. Well, I must say that while I didn't remember this scene from a film where this cue was used, I did enjoy it although it functions more as a source-music type of cue. It brings some refreshing (although a short one), accoustic, rhytmic and native breath after Barry's orchestral magnificence presented in previous 11 tracks, especially sensational "Buffalo Hunt" film version. But I must agree in some little part with reviewer that putting this cue in the middle of album just like THIS one might be in some way (but very little ) a bit disturbing. Anyway Peter, great job!

Tomek

I was so disappointed that Fire Dance was not on the CD when it first came out. That was a significant scene during the movie. This scene spoke to me a blending and learning of the Sioux culture. Even the wolf was watching the Lt. dance. This scene had a huge impact one me. There wasn't enough native american music in the movie so having a semi native american song on the CD was meaningful to me.