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God I miss Jerry Goldsmith
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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (12:00 p.m.) 

So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically the cue "First Contact". And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping. That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

What's your favorite from Goldsmith?


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (12:16 p.m.) 
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> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

I've been on a bit of a Goldsmith kick as well lately, and played Congo and Powder while working yesterday.

One thing that stands out about the top tier composers like Goldsmith is that even the scores of theirs I wouldn't rank as my favorites are still highly enjoyable to me. Compared to a lot of the more active composers working today, I can probably get a good top 10 of my favorites from them, but after that a lot of their scores just fall into the average category.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

Star Trek: The Motion Picture will always be my favorite from him, like many here as well.

Rounding out the top 5:

Rudy
First Knight
Mulan
The Wind and the Lion


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (12:17 p.m.) 

> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

Hear, hear, as my favourite composer I miss his voice almost as much as I miss Horner's, he was such an intelligent and romantic composer, the last of the great romantics in film music I would argue, because in almost every cue he injected some form of romance and wonder, even in his action music sometimes, a wonderful composer we lost far too soon, had he lived he would be turning ninety-four next February 10th.

My favourite score from him is the one you were listening to, Star Trek: First Contact, such a great that showcases everything that was great about his style, while giving his equally talented son Joel to show off his skills too, which he would put to great use on Stargate SG-1 and it was the only time father and son would work together, I believe it had a great meaning for Jerry as well as shown in this wonderful featurette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKdXAU-Y_0

And that track "First Contact" is my favourite Goldsmith cue of all time and my favourite Star Trek track of all time.

To Jerry Goldsmith, the composer who got me into this mess in the first place.


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Sunday, January 22, 2023 (8:35 a.m.) 

> And that track 'First Contact' is my favourite Goldsmith cue of all time
> and my favourite Star Trek track of all time.

It's such a great cue. The way the string melodies go from wonder, awe, to tear-jerking, then excitement. Goldsmith's music evokes all these feelings and more in under 6 minutes.

> To Jerry Goldsmith, the composer who got me into this mess in the first
> place.

That would be James Horner for me... but Goldsmith followed not too far behind. When I was in high school I called Goldsmith, Horner, and Williams "The Big Three" because they were my absolute favorites. It's surreal to me now because back then all three of them were cranking out masterful scores at breakneck pace. Now two of them are dead and the one remaining is in his 90s. It's crazy how times change.

Goldsmith, though, really got me into action scores. Hearing his work for Star Trek, Total Recall, First Knight, Hollow Man, Air Force One, Lionheart, and Sleeping With the Enemy, among others expanded my horizons beyond beyond Horner and Williams.


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> It's such a great cue. The way the string melodies go from wonder, awe, to
> tear-jerking, then excitement. Goldsmith's music evokes all these feelings
> and more in under 6 minutes.

Yes, it sums up not just the whole score, but Star Trek's vision of a better future perfectly, to me "First Contact" is the theme of Star Trek as a whole and Jerry did such a great job with it, you can feel love of Star Trek's ideals in the music, its just perfect.

> That would be James Horner for me... but Goldsmith followed not too far
> behind. When I was in high school I called Goldsmith, Horner, and Williams
> 'The Big Three' because they were my absolute favorites. It's surreal to
> me now because back then all three of them were cranking out masterful
> scores at breakneck pace. Now two of them are dead and the one remaining
> is in his 90s. It's crazy how times change.

> Goldsmith, though, really got me into action scores. Hearing his work for
> Star Trek, Total Recall, First Knight, Hollow Man, Air Force One,
> Lionheart, and Sleeping With the Enemy, among others expanded my horizons
> beyond beyond Horner and Williams.

Yes, it was when I first listened to his score for Star Trek: Insurrection, I just became obsessed with the music on that short album and played it to death, especially the end credits, I just loved it, then I listened to the rest of his works and now he's my favourite, although I think Horner is the better composer overall at how he could write such emotional music, Jerry is the composer I always return to the most, I can't describe it, there is just something warm and comforting about his style that makes me keep coming back and I can't listen to "A New Ending" from Star Trek Nemesis without breaking down either, that track is essentially his goodbye to to the series he loved to score the most and you can feel his heartbreak and sadness in the music at saying goodbye to Star Trek, because he knew that he would probably not live to see the next movie produced and "A New Ending" reflects that.


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (1:43 p.m.) 

> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

Yeah, he was just incredible.

My favourite of his always flops around between three - Rudy, Hoosiers, and ST: TMP. I can’t decide which one I love the most, so my answer usually changes every week (or when Kuhni gives my sass for liking Rudy so much hahaha)


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (2:34 p.m.) 

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

Under Fire!



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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (3:05 p.m.) 

Rudy, or maybe Mulan. But my favorite theme from him is definitely 'Home Coming' from Rambo.


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (3:07 p.m.) 
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> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

If I could take only three Goldsmith scores to a desert island with me, they would be the expanded versions of Hoosiers, The Russia House, and The Shadow.

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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (11:27 p.m.) 

I've really got to listen to The Russia House.

Glad to see The Shadow getting some love!


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (3:15 p.m.) 

> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

He was gone long before my start with film music, and given that he was only 75 when he died (my dad is 72, so that is NOT an appropriate age to die at, thanks so much!), it was arguably before his time as well. His voice was singular, despite his colossal influence on the industry.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

Gun-to-head, my answer would be to sob and shriek HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME.

If I had to choose one favorite... probably Mulan, in how it balances most of the things I love about his oeuvre. There are others I might say have more significant *individual* strengths or have all-time best passages and bits of challenging sound (Star Trek TMP). So Mulan is my choice, *if* I must choose one!


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Sunday, January 22, 2023 (9:51 a.m.) 

> He was gone long before my start with film music, and given that he was
> only 75 when he died (my dad is 72, so that is NOT an appropriate age to
> die at, thanks so much!), it was arguably before his time as well. His
> voice was singular, despite his colossal influence on the industry.

Well his father lived to be 101 years old, so potentially Jerry could still very much be with us today if not for his unhealthy lifestyle.


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Saturday, January 21, 2023 (3:50 p.m.) 

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

My favorite Goldsmith scores, in order, are:

First Knight
Lionheart
The Blue Max
The Omen: Final Conflict
Star Trek
Patton
Under Fire

All of these are within my top 100. First Knight and Lionheart are within my top 35.

The first album of Goldsmith's music I got was an early, 2CD completion album with the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. There were many tracks on there I played on repeat starting with their suites from the First Knight, The Blue Max, and Patton(/MacArthur)!


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> My favorite Goldsmith scores, in order, are:

> First Knight
> Lionheart
> The Blue Max
> The Omen: Final Conflict
> Star Trek
> Patton
> Under Fire

> All of these are within my top 100. First Knight and Lionheart are within
> my top 35.

> The first album of Goldsmith's music I got was an early, 2CD completion
> album with the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. There were many
> tracks on there I played on repeat starting with their suites from the
> First Knight, The Blue Max, and Patton(/MacArthur)!

I still vividly remember the day Jerry died back in 2004. I sat in my living room and just listened to his CDs all day. When I put on First Contact I started sobbing. The day that First Contact came out I remember sitting in the theater hearing that theme for the first time and just being stunned at its beauty. That is still one of the best movie theater experiences I've ever had.

My desert island Jerry:
Lionheart (Expanded) All time favorite Jerry
Hoosiers (Expanded)
Star Trek: First Contact (Complete Score) (because I need the FC theme and TMP theme)

I would include the Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox 6 cd set but its 6 cds...

Slainte


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It would be fair to say that I came here knowing only The Dark Knight but stayed as this wonderful community opened my ears me to a lot of great composers and scores. Out of the composers who are no longer with us I miss Basil Poledouris and Jerry Goldsmith the most. They both have been masters of using synths to create genuine emotions. It is hard to pick a few scores especially because he has scored a lot of genres and I like to listen to them based on my mood (the reason why I am struggling to complete my top 10 for 2022). My only wish would be to get an expanded edition for Mulan.


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> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

The Blue Max
Ghost and Darkness
Small Soldiers
The Mummy
Omen 3

...are the first ones that comes to mind.



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> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

The Blue Max, TMP, The Omen Final Conflict. A magnificent, consummate film composer.

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The Russia House and Papillon
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Tuesday, January 24, 2023 (6:11 a.m.) 

> So I decided to play some cues from Star Trek: First Contact, specifically
> the cue 'First Contact'. And by the 3 minute mark I was literally weeping.
> That is simply one of the best, most gorgeous themes he ever composed. I
> later explored one or two of his other scores (like Rudy) and it made me
> realize how much I miss the man and his unique musical voice.

> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

These two scores I still listen to at least once a week, if not several more than that, ten or so years after first hearing them. Both are completely different, yet both sublimely beautiful. Also, surely Papillon has the others beat for a desert island disc, Clemmensen?

The next few roughly ranked would go Lionheart, Basic Instinct, Under Fire, Chinatown, Patton and so on.


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> What's your favorite from Goldsmith?

All of it.



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