> Oh ok, so you need to study music for years to be a good composer? You
> need to orchestrate stuff to be one?

Actually, yes.

> You obviously don't understand the
> concept of talent. Zimmer is not a classicaly trained composer and his
> style reflects that perfectly. And you obviously don't want to understand
> the idea behind Zimmer's studio either (don't worry, you're not alone).

I understand the concept of talent, but talent doesn't make you good. What counts is what you make of it. Does studying music make a difference? You bet it does! Why? Because you learn to fine-tune your music, how to use complex and detailed knowledge of composition intentionally, how to structure music. And you may know too little about music to realise this, you may not hear it, but don't brush over people who do have musical knowledge and do hear the painful simplicity in Hans Zimmer's work.

> Ok, he likes to work with a lot of people arround him, so what. Why can't
> people just let go of all that "ghostwriter" crap and enjoy the
> music. All the composers for additional music are listed on the CD anyway,
> so nobody can say they don't get credit.

Would they get an Oscar, or any other award for that matter, if Zimmer, heaven forbid, ever got another? Well, that's the point.

> Zimmer has reinvented the film
> music genre and a lot of oldschool fans just can't seem to get over it.
> He's fresh and instantly recognizable. And if you seriously say he's got
> no talent and is an embarassment to music, it's you who obviously has no
> idea about music.

Zimmer didn't reinvent anything. Using synths instead of an orchestra has nothing to do with musical, compositional choices. Miklos Rosza, Bernard Herrmann reinvented film music, John Williams revived film music, and all that was for the better. Hans Zimmer's impact (I don't doubt he has an impact, but it's not revolutionary) on the other side is a huge step backwards because it makes people forget what fine art movie music actually is.
David Arnold's work on Die Another Day is far more edgier than anything Zimmer conjured up until today. If anything, he's Vangelis II.

> Besides, his melodies may be very shallow (to you), but add all the rest, >the brass coming in, the drums in the back, the choir placed on it, all to >make it match... well I must say, no simple kid nor student could do that >without knowledge, experience ànd talent.

Oh please, don't insult any musician's intelligence! Letting a choir sing the complementary chords of a leading voice, and layer some drum rhythms on top of it doesn't require any more talent than a young ... very young student has.
Have you tried it? I doubt you have.

There are online universities where you can learn digital music production in about 2 years. Have a little talent, go through that, and you're coming as close to Hans Zimmer as you could wish for.